#ReturnOurCPF #还我们公积金 | YMCA personnel Victor Poh 偉特傅
The second tranche of our court case is open to public from 24 to 26 Feb 2016 from 9am to 6pm.
The 4 Deputy Public Prosecutors involved are:
1. Senior Director/Senior State Counsel/DPP Francis NG Yong Kiat
2. Deputy Senior State Counsel/DPP John LU Zhuoren
3. State Counsel/DPP Amanda CHONG Wei-Zhen
4. State Counsel/DPP Jane LIM Ern Hui
The following was what happened in court and all grammar mistakes and sounds made are as it is:
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that you lied on your facebook posting when you said that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: I did not post that on facebook.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that YMCA’s facebook is spreading a lie when it posted that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: That one is my corporate affairs department.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that your corporate affairs department is spreading a lie on facebook by saying that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: No, I don’t think so.
Han Hui Hui: Samantha Seah May Ann said you have contingency plan, what was the plan?
Victor Poh: We will move all the beneficiaries to various locations that we have arranged.
Han Hui Hui: What are these locations?
Victor Poh: Ok er we will go to YMCA and some will go back to their respective VWOs and then ah we will conduct activities at the centers instead of at Hong Lim Park.
Han Hui Hui: How many people attended the YMCA event?
Victor Poh: About one thousand people.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that the CPF protest will require a 6 times larger place and venue than YMCA?
Victor Poh: Yes, logically.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that logically speaking the CPF event needs a 6 times larger place to conduct its event than the YMCA?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Han Hui Hui: When did you get your approval from Nparks?
Victor Poh: Erm this is settled by my staff Tia so the approval is in September 2014.
Han Hui Hui: September 2014 on what date?
Victor Poh: The date I’m not sure but we have been liaising with Nparks.
Han Hui Hui: You said that people were distressed so do you have any doctor’s document to back it up?
Victor Poh: Erm no.
Han Hui Hui: Do you have any doctor’s document as evidence for any physical, emotional or mental distress?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Did you communicate with anyone to report on the march?
Victor Poh: I reported it to the police.
Han Hui Hui: Did you tell the police to come to stop the march or what?
Victor Poh: The march start so I ask them to come I didn’t I mean what they want to do is up to the police.
Han Hui Hui: What was your purpose of asking them to come?
Victor Poh: Just in case anything happen to us, they can help.
Han Hui Hui: What do you think could have happened?
4 Deputy Public Prosecutors: *objection*
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, but they also did speculation with regards to Samantha Seah and also to the mothers Regina Ann Siew Kian, Karen Lee Nui Li Noira, Liew Siew Ling, Cindy Tan Chai Hong, they also speculated what could have happened to their children, they also speculated that they could have actually had a fit, they also speculated that there was maybe a coffin being marched around?
Judge: That wasn’t speculation.
Han Hui Hui: That means it’s a fact that there was a coffin being marched around?
Judge: Out of context, next question.
Han Hui Hui: Are you aware that Hong Lim Park is a designated area for the people to openly voice their concerns and exercise their freedom of expression?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Han Hui Hui: Were you concerned when you organize an event at the speakers’ corner?
Victor Poh: Erm no.
Han Hui Hui: Why not?
Victor Poh: Because the park is open to all people.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that the protest is on the CPF and the CPF is an issue that affects Singaporeans?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, may I conclude that I’m not allowed to ask if the CPF…
Judge: *interrupted*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, may I conclude that I’m not allowed to ask if the CPF protest is affecting all Singaporeans and that it is easy to get Singaporeans emotional during the protest?
Judge: Yes *hurry up*
Han Hui Hui: I still have questions because Samantha Seah May Ann had almost all questions rejected and I was told to ask him because they were directed to him?
Judge: If they were rejected for Samantha then they will also be rejected for him.
Han Hui Hui: Did any of your YMCA personnel or any of the people attending your event told you to talk to the CPF protesters?
Victor Poh: No.
Han Hui Hui: Did you attempt to tell the emcee to stop the event?
Victor Poh: No.
Han Hui Hui: Why not?
Judge: He didn’t tell the emcee to stop the event.
Han Hui Hui: Are you concerned for the people attending the event?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Why did you not tell the emcee to stop the event?
Judge: The event was not stopped, he did not tell them to stop the event because there was no need to stop the event.
Ivan: So you said you have called the police?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Ivan: You are the one who called the police right?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Janet: You have heard about protest, everybody knows protest as what your honor has said protest is you chant…
Judge: I didn’t say that, there’s no definition about a protest.
Janet: Have you thought about talking to the CPF event people since I’ve already started, all my plan is there, why not I talk to the CPF protesters, contact the organizer to tell them say can you change your event?
Victor Poh: Ok first we submitted all our plans to Nparks so the Nparks mentioned that they will handle it.
Janet: Do you agree that when the speech and the music combine together it can be turned into a noise?
Victor Poh: Yes.
The 4 Deputy Public Prosecutors involved are:
1. Senior Director/Senior State Counsel/DPP Francis NG Yong Kiat
2. Deputy Senior State Counsel/DPP John LU Zhuoren
3. State Counsel/DPP Amanda CHONG Wei-Zhen
4. State Counsel/DPP Jane LIM Ern Hui
The following was what happened in court and all grammar mistakes and sounds made are as it is:
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that you lied on your facebook posting when you said that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: I did not post that on facebook.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that YMCA’s facebook is spreading a lie when it posted that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: That one is my corporate affairs department.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that your corporate affairs department is spreading a lie on facebook by saying that the event was successful?
Victor Poh: No, I don’t think so.
Han Hui Hui: Samantha Seah May Ann said you have contingency plan, what was the plan?
Victor Poh: We will move all the beneficiaries to various locations that we have arranged.
Han Hui Hui: What are these locations?
Victor Poh: Ok er we will go to YMCA and some will go back to their respective VWOs and then ah we will conduct activities at the centers instead of at Hong Lim Park.
Han Hui Hui: How many people attended the YMCA event?
Victor Poh: About one thousand people.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that the CPF protest will require a 6 times larger place and venue than YMCA?
Victor Poh: Yes, logically.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that logically speaking the CPF event needs a 6 times larger place to conduct its event than the YMCA?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Han Hui Hui: When did you get your approval from Nparks?
Victor Poh: Erm this is settled by my staff Tia so the approval is in September 2014.
Han Hui Hui: September 2014 on what date?
Victor Poh: The date I’m not sure but we have been liaising with Nparks.
Han Hui Hui: You said that people were distressed so do you have any doctor’s document to back it up?
Victor Poh: Erm no.
Han Hui Hui: Do you have any doctor’s document as evidence for any physical, emotional or mental distress?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Did you communicate with anyone to report on the march?
Victor Poh: I reported it to the police.
Han Hui Hui: Did you tell the police to come to stop the march or what?
Victor Poh: The march start so I ask them to come I didn’t I mean what they want to do is up to the police.
Han Hui Hui: What was your purpose of asking them to come?
Victor Poh: Just in case anything happen to us, they can help.
Han Hui Hui: What do you think could have happened?
4 Deputy Public Prosecutors: *objection*
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, but they also did speculation with regards to Samantha Seah and also to the mothers Regina Ann Siew Kian, Karen Lee Nui Li Noira, Liew Siew Ling, Cindy Tan Chai Hong, they also speculated what could have happened to their children, they also speculated that they could have actually had a fit, they also speculated that there was maybe a coffin being marched around?
Judge: That wasn’t speculation.
Han Hui Hui: That means it’s a fact that there was a coffin being marched around?
Judge: Out of context, next question.
Han Hui Hui: Are you aware that Hong Lim Park is a designated area for the people to openly voice their concerns and exercise their freedom of expression?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Han Hui Hui: Were you concerned when you organize an event at the speakers’ corner?
Victor Poh: Erm no.
Han Hui Hui: Why not?
Victor Poh: Because the park is open to all people.
Han Hui Hui: Do you agree that the protest is on the CPF and the CPF is an issue that affects Singaporeans?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, may I conclude that I’m not allowed to ask if the CPF…
Judge: *interrupted*
Han Hui Hui: Your honor, may I conclude that I’m not allowed to ask if the CPF protest is affecting all Singaporeans and that it is easy to get Singaporeans emotional during the protest?
Judge: Yes *hurry up*
Han Hui Hui: I still have questions because Samantha Seah May Ann had almost all questions rejected and I was told to ask him because they were directed to him?
Judge: If they were rejected for Samantha then they will also be rejected for him.
Han Hui Hui: Did any of your YMCA personnel or any of the people attending your event told you to talk to the CPF protesters?
Victor Poh: No.
Han Hui Hui: Did you attempt to tell the emcee to stop the event?
Victor Poh: No.
Han Hui Hui: Why not?
Judge: He didn’t tell the emcee to stop the event.
Han Hui Hui: Are you concerned for the people attending the event?
Judge: *rejected*
Han Hui Hui: Why did you not tell the emcee to stop the event?
Judge: The event was not stopped, he did not tell them to stop the event because there was no need to stop the event.
Ivan: So you said you have called the police?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Ivan: You are the one who called the police right?
Victor Poh: Yes.
Janet: You have heard about protest, everybody knows protest as what your honor has said protest is you chant…
Judge: I didn’t say that, there’s no definition about a protest.
Janet: Have you thought about talking to the CPF event people since I’ve already started, all my plan is there, why not I talk to the CPF protesters, contact the organizer to tell them say can you change your event?
Victor Poh: Ok first we submitted all our plans to Nparks so the Nparks mentioned that they will handle it.
Janet: Do you agree that when the speech and the music combine together it can be turned into a noise?
Victor Poh: Yes.
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